If you are a news administrator at some site and somebody has asked you to participate in distribution of pl.* groups, then read on.
If you are a news user, who wants to read the pl.* groups on his default news server - you should find the news administrator, kindly ask him if he could arrange receiving the pl.* newsgroups, and send him this article (or the pointer to the HTML version at http://www.usenet.pl/doc/news-pl-new-site-faq.html), to make his job easier.
ping -s
' and
'traceroute
'). The best of course is when pl.* groups
are carried over your 'normal' feed - ie. together with other news
hierarchies. But as the pl.* news are quite young (first groups were
created about June 1994), there are not many news servers outside of
Poland having them, so you may have to create a special new feed for them.
Below is the list of some servers outside Poland (and some in
Poland) carrying pl.*, that I know of. It is not very long (nor
complete) as you see. If the contact address is not explicitly
listed, try 'usenet
' at the news server's address, as
'usenet@news.ict.pwr.wroc.pl
'.
USA uunet.uu.net (X 1995) USA gail.ripco.com USA/MCI news.mcs.com USA ratty.wolfe.net USA/Sprintlink news.sprintlink.net USA news.hookup.net USA news.uoregon.edu newsadmin@news.uoregon.edu USA news.efn.org Russ Taylor (17.12.1996) Canada/Toronto news.ki.net Marc G. Fournier <news@ki.net> (5.08.1996) and many more Sweden sunet.se (existing feeds only!, see below) Norway news.uio.no usenet@usenet.no (since XI 1996) Netherlands news.easy.nl Peter Janssens <pj@easy.nl> (V 1996) Netherlands news.NL.net, news.xs4all.nl, news.IAEhv.nl see note below Germany news.uni-stuttgart.de Kurt Jaeger <news@news.uni-stuttgart.de> Germany news.desy.de Kars Ohrenberg <ohrenber@zedy00.desy.de> Germany news.fu-berlin.de Vera Heinau et. al. Australia news.ozemail.com.au Australia news.mel.aone.net.au Poland news.ict.pwr.wroc.pl Tomasz Surmacz <tsurmacz@ict.pwr.wroc.pl> Poland news.uw.edu.pl Michal Jankowski <michalj@fuw.edu.pl> Poland news.icm.edu.pl Jan Rychter <jwr@news.icm.edu.pl> Poland news.nask.pl admin account and all existing news servers in Poland (check http://www.usenet.pl/doc/ for the more up-to-date list)Send e-mail to any of the above news administrators, asking him if he could feed you the pl.* hierarchy. Include your news server addresses: the internet address of the server and its 'news name' ie. the string which is put in the 'Path:' header. Unfortunately, sunet.se seems to be overloaded with its newsfeeds, so its administrators will not give you a 'new feed', but if you already have one - just ask for the pl.* hierarchy to be added to your existing feed. In Netherlands you should probably get the pl.* groups from your 'usual' neighbour. If not, contact admins of news.NL.net.
Otherwise, contact other people from this list.
In reply you should get appropriate host name/news name for the host you will be receiving pl.* articles from. (The first will be exactly as in the list above (let it be "sample.site.pl", but the 'Path:' address is usually a bit different - say "news.pl".) You should also get the current list of all pl.* groups that you ought to create manually. This list is also posted regularly to pl.answers and pl.news.admin groups (you may connect to news.ict.pwr.wroc.pl to get access to these groups before you establish the proper feed for pl.* for yourself). You can get the part of newsgroups and active file also via ftp, as stated below.
Add the internet address (sample.site.pl) to your hosts.nntp file and
restart the server or do a "ctlinnd reload hosts.nntp ''
", if you are running INND. This way you start recognizing the
other host as the news server and not a client. The 'PathHost'
("news.pl" in our example) will be needed for the second step - sending
news back.
Now - create all the groups. You should get the list in the format of the active file, so this little script should do the job:
--------------------------- add_pl.sh ------------------------------ #!/bin/sh # Usage: add_pl file_containing_pl_groups_in_active_format # such as http://www.usenet.pl/doc/pl.active # or ftp://ftp.ict.pwr.wroc.pl/pub/faq-pl/pl.active # change this to reflect your configuration ACTIVE=/usr/lib/news/active PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/lib/news/bin # Pause the server (assuming innd) ctlinnd pause 'updating active' cp ${ACTIVE} ${ACTIVE}.bak awk '{ printf ("%s 0000000000 0000000001 %s\n", $1, $4); }' < $1 >> $(ACTIVE) ctlinnd reload active 'updating active' ctlinnd go 'updating active' ----------------------------------------------------------------------or if there are not too many groups, then (for INND only):
--------------------------- add_pl_small.sh -------------------------- #!/bin/sh # Usage: add_pl_small file_containing_pl_groups_in_active_format # such as http://www.usenet.pl/doc/pl.active # change this to reflect your configuration PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/news/bin while read group last first type ; do ctlinnd newgroup ${group} ${type} done < $1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------You should also get the descriptions of all the pl.* groups so just 'cat >>' them to the end of your 'newsgroups' file. The current list of all pl.* groups (updated daily) can be downloaded via ftp from the following address:
ftp://ftp.ict.pwr.wroc.pl/pub/faq-pl/pl.newsgroupsThe portion of current 'active' file containing only pl.* groups can be found at:
ftp://ftp.ict.pwr.wroc.pl/pub/faq-pl/pl.activeEven better and simpler way of creating new groups and getting in sync is getting just the pl.newsgroups file and feeding it directly to the
docheckgroups program. This will produce a series of
'ctlinnd newgroup ...
lines which can be fed to shell for
execution (ie. 'cat pl.newsgroups | docheckgroups | sh')
moderators file:
All the postings to the moderated groups under pl.* should be sent
to news-group-name@usenet.pl (with dots in the group name replaced by
hyphens) - so to your 'moderators' file add the following somewhere near
the beginning (before the default "*:%s@uunet.uu.net"):
pl.*:%s@usenet.pl
If you have installed the innd1.5.1 server and config files, you just
have to uncomment the appropriate line in the moderators file.
control.ctl file
To get all the new pl.* groups created and removed automatically when
needed, add the following to the control.ctl file:
newgroup:newgroup@usenet.pl:pl.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:newgroup@usenet.pl:pl.*:doit=rmgroup
If you can check pgp-signed control messages, look at the
end of this document to get more info about how to set it up for
the pl.* hierarchy.
expire.ctl file
This is completely your (or your users) policy, how long to keep the
postings in each group, but let me suggest you just one thing. There is
a special group pl.answers which is much like all *.answers groups
- it is moderated and all articles there are sent periodically with the
appropriate 'Expires:' and 'Supersedes:' headers, so it would be best, if
these were respected. If your 'standard' entry is like: '*:A:1:10:never'
- ie. 'never' remove articles with 'Expires:' header before they expire -
don't worry about pl.answers. But if you force all articles to be expired
after say 10 days - please make an exception and add to the expire.ctl:
pl.answers:A:1:10:never
or:
pl.answers:A:1:10:60
which means keep articles there for at least 1 day, usually 10 days if
there is no 'Expires:' header, otherwise respect the header (but in the latter
case - not longer than 60 days even if Expires: header says it should
be kept longer). All the articles have maximum 30-40 days expiration
period, so any of the above will be ok. (It is a good idea to respect
these headers in other groups too, anyway).
2. Sending news
Unless you are receiving pl.* groups through your mainstream feed, you
need to reconfigure a bit your server to send pl.* groups back. And even
if you are receiving them through your normal feeds, please make sure
they are included in the list of groups sent out.
When you asked for a pl.* feed, you also got permission to send all pl.*
groups back, so to your 'newsfeeds' file (that's in innd; in cnews it is
called 'sys') add appropriate entry for sending the pl.* groups
back. Use the 'pathhost' name (in our example - "news.pl") that you have
got, to build the entry. For example, in innd (assuming getting news
from sample.site.pl and sending them back there) it might look like:
plnews/news.pl\
:!*,pl.*\
:Tf,Wnm:
(replace "news.pl" with what appears in the Path: field put there by
the site feeding you) and then you also need to tell your cron job
sending news, to send them also to "sample.site.pl". If you are using
nntpsend/innxmit, add to the nntpsend.ctl file:
plnews:sample.site.pl:::-T1720 -t300
^ ^ ^
| | + Other useful parameters
| Internet addres of your pl.* provider
+-- Name used in newsfeeds file.
That should be all... You may now post a test message to pl.test and
expect a reply in e-mail within a day or so, as there is an automatic
pl.test responder attached to one of the servers in Poland. If your
test posting reaches it - get yourself a beer, as you have done a good
work. :-) If you do not want to get the reply message - just include
the word 'ignore' in the message subject or body.
======================================================================
Once again, step by step, in short:
You probably know your own news system better than me, so these detailed
descriptions may be unnecessary. If you know how to do most of things,
use this short 'checklist' instead:
- Contact the news administrator at the other end and get the feed for
pl.* groups
- Add all existing groups to the 'active' file
- Add groups' descriptions to your 'newsgroups' file
- Add these 2 lines to the control.ctl file:
newgroup:newgroup@usenet.pl:pl.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:newgroup@usenet.pl:pl.*:doit=rmgroup
For PGP-verification of control messages see comments at the end of this document.
- Add this line to the 'moderators' file:
pl.*:%s@usenet.pl
- Check the expiration policy for all 'normal' groups, and if
possible - try respecting the 'Expires:' headers in pl.answers group by
putting 'never' or '60' in the last field of entry in expire.ctl file.
- Modify your 'newsfeeds' file to feed all the pl.* groups back, so
the articles posted by your users will be transferred to other servers.
- Send a test posting to pl.test and check whether
you receive a reply by e-mail from an autoresponder.
- If your usenet neighbours want to get pl.* groups, send them this
'starter kit' or point them to the newest version. There should
be a copy in news.answers,
news.admin.hierarchies,
pl.answers and pl.news.admin at *your* server, but if
not, you may always get one from:
http://www.usenet.pl/doc/news-pl-new-site-faq.html
That's all.
Now is the time for...
Questions...
What are the pl.* groups anyway?
The pl.* news hierarchy holds Polish national groups. They sometimes
mirror similar groups in the big-eight hierarchy (with the exception,
that in pl.* groups the most used language is Polish), but some are
very specific.
Is there any 'checkgroups' message for pl.* groups?
Yes, there is. It gets posted automatically once every two months
(starting on January 1st), so you should not see it very frequently.
In addition you may get the list of pl.* groups in the
'newsgroups' file format from the locations described above and
feed it to the 'docheckgroups
' program.
Should I be concerned about large volume of articles in binary
sub-hierarchies?
No. There are no binary groups under the pl.* hierarchy and there are
none planned. Any binary postings sent to pl.* are usually dealt with
by friendly cancelbots.
What about PGP-signed control messages?
Yep, the control messages requesting creation or removal of groups in
the pl.* hierarchy are already PGP-signed. Of course, if your server
does not support checking of PGP signatures in control messages,
you have to trust the 'From:' headers. innd versions 1.5.1 and later
support PGP control messages by default, so you just have to uncomment
appropriate lines in the control.ctl file, as they are
commented-out by default. The public PGP key for these messages
(ie. the key for pl.announce.newgroups) is included in the innd 1.5.1
config files and can be also found here:
pub 1024/838AF8ED 1996/05/31 pl.announce.newgroups
sig 838AF8ED pl.announce.newgroups
-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: 2.6.2i
mQCNAzGvEY4AAAEEAL8clpC5yydhkMN1ppivfj3E6EIyZtntScjuCyI+RwpvLf9o
So+FLbiMmjjCV7BNjds7c1yaDMPDFetZlqEYKof5Q0QK2bDaaou3wtnDesAXqrde
K24GURn0N2BYWR9sEFJ4bwn8fudHelFcAXPt24lI29bu6dX+LddKTteDivjtAAUR
tBVwbC5hbm5vdW5jZS5uZXdncm91cHOJAJUDBRAyc5r/10pO14OK+O0BAWq9A/0e
So5/56x6hkT0to92FUiIbcoHF6J20sa4edDXbzTHZTvNJh3K4iSBwkspMcx8AWyS
36ckftXsZP2xRTj2Dk4xgLLCcFBjPHt7q5ysa8dChkgEu8770OE5atbQZorzz757
xpOgKmjRXLVbzt680Z807jH/zOo+BRby3ZMJFtGPyrQXPGNvbnRyb2xAYWRtLnVz
ZW5ldC5wbD4=
=n+Qy
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
You may also send email to pgp-public-keys@pgp.ai.mit.edu
with "GET 0x838AF8ED" in the Subject: field and empty message body.
The corrected control.ctl lines should be as follows:
newgroup:newgroup@usenet.pl|michalj@*fuw.edu.pl:pl.*:verify-pl.announce.newgroups
rmgroup:newgroup@usenet.pl|michalj@*fuw.edu.pl:pl.*:verify-pl.announce.newgroups
They are not set as a default for innd 1.5.1, so you need to comment out 'old'
newgroup/rmgroup files and copy the above ones.
For more information on checking PGP-signed control messages, see
ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/misc/pgpcontrol/README.html or
ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/misc/pgpcontrol/README.
Whether or not you do a PGP validation of control messages, the
addresses they are sent from are the same as mentioned above (in the
control.ctl section).
If you have any comments on the above procedure or my description,
or if you find any errors, etc., please do tell me, so I can improve it.
Tomasz R. Surmacz
(tsurmacz@adm.usenet.pl,
tsurmacz@ict.pwr.wroc.pl),
22.11.2005
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